tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post5152243237738070055..comments2024-02-28T23:27:13.346-08:00Comments on BAD RAP Blog: Woe is PhillyTimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17654993049959218916noreply@blogger.comBlogger83125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-80815509158833226262009-08-26T23:28:56.157-07:002009-08-26T23:28:56.157-07:00I said months ago that if Vick ever walked onto th...I said months ago that if Vick ever walked onto the field again I'd never watch another NFL game. Period! And I'm not. The NFL disgusts me.<br /><br />People who are capable of torturing animals for the sake of sport are the same people who commit acts of violence against other people- mainly women and children. As "dog people", we need to keep this in mind. Especially when morons argue that this is "just about dogs."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-89628033192847354382009-08-22T05:44:27.083-07:002009-08-22T05:44:27.083-07:00Seems to me that the logical first action of a &qu...Seems to me that the logical first action of a "redeemed Michael Vick" would be to speak out strongly to those thugs who are torturing and killing pitties in Philadelphia! Haven't heard a word about it . . . I, too, feel bad for those who are on the front lines and have to deal with this carnage!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-38432014970601252942009-08-18T20:04:45.563-07:002009-08-18T20:04:45.563-07:00Ironically I am in Philadelphia this week for work...Ironically I am in Philadelphia this week for work. I booked my flight before I knew they would sign him or you can bet US Airways would NEVER have received my business, I don't care how many connections it would have taken me. <br /><br />Anyway, it's been on the news day and night and I have to say only half of it is positive support for Vick. Seems like there is a good number of Philly people who have compassion and a brain to know that he got his second chance getting out of prison. No one gets the breaks he's getting and it's unthinkable that someone who demonstrated his level of serial killer traits is out and being supported by supposed humane orgs. <br /><br />I'm looking for a protest to join after training before I have to fly home...and I dropped off a letter to city hall for the mayor to enjoy about how much money I'm not spending here. Their budget is in as bad a shape as Sacramento's, so I hope he knows how much Sushi I would have consumed otherwise...beckynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-89403341516047148562009-08-18T17:32:56.031-07:002009-08-18T17:32:56.031-07:00I will truly never watch another Eagle's game!...I will truly never watch another Eagle's game! By signing Vick to the Eagle's, or just back into the NFL, we have sent the message to all our youth that you can commit a crime, do your time, and nothing will be lost. Vick is only sorry that he got caught. Where did our morales and ethics go? Sorry, I'm human and Vick does not deserve to start back at the head of the pack!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-65538893088381945452009-08-18T17:12:38.155-07:002009-08-18T17:12:38.155-07:00newmans mom,
i do the same thing with my boy darwi...newmans mom,<br />i do the same thing with my boy darwin and my girl jasmine when i start feeling so sad over this, i hug them, kiss their sweet pittie faces and just think it could have been them if their circumstances had been different. it makes me feel better to hug my dogs no matter how crappy or sad i feel. but it also reminds me of how horrible a man must be to do such things as vick has done. to look at such innocence and trusting faces and destroy that love. destroy that life. vick has a very long way to go, and that path would be a lot smoother if the nfl was not a part of it.leighanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-63604318816808189532009-08-18T09:24:37.312-07:002009-08-18T09:24:37.312-07:00I did watch Vick's interview, I forced myself....I did watch Vick's interview, I forced myself. It has changed nothing for me. The man is a liar, only feeling sad when he talked about loosing everything, being in jail. The smirk that kept trying to come to his face made me want to slap him. It would have felt better if just once he begged forgiveness for killing, abusing sweet dogs, or said he was going to start volunteering at an animal shelter, anything, any sign of remorse, shame, but nothing. All I saw was a man who seems to have once again escaped justice. He can't even bring himself to say the word dogs. I think the whole NFL, not just the Eagles should be ashamed. I couldn't even watch my beloved 49rs, football seeming so insignificant in the face of this murder. I am trying to find something good from this - still looking. It did make me grab my pit Newman & lavish him with tons of kisses, thinking all the while it could have been him. I know we are supposed to forgive but I think it should be earned not given blindly.Newman's Momnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-82825154687407248152009-08-17T20:22:26.445-07:002009-08-17T20:22:26.445-07:00donna, i know how you feel. my stomach has been in...donna, i know how you feel. my stomach has been in knots and i think it really is just due to the disgust i feel over this. i am a football fan or i at least was. now i am torn. i know i would never support my team (the redskins) any longer had they taken vick. but i am so angry at the nfl as a whole. not to sound melodramatic but i feel like my ability to enjoy an nfl game has been stripped from me. i look forward to football every year but this year i dont. i am still holding out hope that the backlash will be so greatly felt in the nfl offices that they will regret their decision and vick will be banned for life from the games. i never want to see him on my tv or on that tv at the sports bar where i enjoy a beverage with friends. this just sucks and it makes me so damn sad, angry, confused and sick. and i try not to dwell on it but how can i avoid it when he will be on that tv at the bar?leighanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-88048193298188065072009-08-17T19:58:49.189-07:002009-08-17T19:58:49.189-07:00I too decided not to watch the '60 Minutes'...I too decided not to watch the '60 Minutes' interview. Why listen to lies? We all know he will not be truthful nor feel remorse. He will say what his handlers tell him to say. He is a punk. You can dress him up in a suit, put him on TV, put pretty words in his mouth...but he is still a punk. <br /><br />I spent some time with one of the dogs that survived Vick's Virginia stalag this past weekend. I looked in Red's eyes, and held him close. He is always happy to give kisses and loves getting his back scratched. He survived and now lives a happy, normal life with a warm, loving family. Vick can't hurt him any more. <br /><br />Accept those things you cannot change; Change those things you cannot accept. <br /><br /><br />s&b/mtryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-56969042994194149572009-08-17T16:14:18.735-07:002009-08-17T16:14:18.735-07:00Crap, where do I even start. All of my compadre l...Crap, where do I even start. All of my compadre loving pit bull lovers/owners above have stated my thoughts exactly. I look forward to seeing the 'protests w/bully dogs' at the game with Raiders/Eagles on the news. I personally think Vick should work at a BBQ joint or hamburger shack for about $7.25/hour - which is the minimum wage here in the great state of Texas. Darn, he'd have to lose his $$$$$$$$ home in Virginia. How do people pay bills on a house like that when they are in bancruptcy? Who's paying the light bill? Boris agrees with me. I wouldn't let Michael Vick near my dog<br /><br />Boris' MomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-87808056815660115552009-08-17T15:27:06.200-07:002009-08-17T15:27:06.200-07:00Great feedback and all the more reason for us all ...Great feedback and all the more reason for us all to replicate the shot faires. Thanks Donna,<br /><br />Lynn in N. CalAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-48418579699757874712009-08-17T15:16:23.753-07:002009-08-17T15:16:23.753-07:00Hi Lynn - Thanks for the great link.
Our bigger c...Hi Lynn - Thanks for the great link.<br /><br />Our bigger challenge in the bay area isn't dog fighting (we see very little evidence of that activity) but we do struggle with dogs that suffer from improper care. The shots fairs have been really successful in bringing education & resources to the more challenged communities. Since we started 5 or so years ago, we've seen a noticeable improvement in the condition of pets that come to the fairs and into the shelters. I'd like to think this helps prove that you don't have to use desperate measures like MV to inspire positive change in your community.. Just plain old fashioned owner support and outreach.<br /><br />We still struggle with overpopulation of course -- as does everyone. I have to wonder if Vick is going to promote s/n. THAT would be interesting.Donnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05881171300084907158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-70634700366996796452009-08-17T14:04:40.595-07:002009-08-17T14:04:40.595-07:00Hi Donna,
Has Bad Rap ever thought about teaming ...Hi Donna,<br /><br />Has Bad Rap ever thought about teaming up with Street Soldiers/Omega Boys Club? They had both SF and Oakland programs. Its been awhile since I was involved , but noticed that they are still very active with very successful programs. Its about taking street kids, treating the sickness of violence, helping them with education, etc. and giving back to the community. I could see an "anti-dog fighting" component easily. <br /><br />http://www.street-soldiers.org/programs.htm<br /><br />Lynn in N. CalAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-77935388050167349032009-08-17T13:27:13.327-07:002009-08-17T13:27:13.327-07:00I'm with you Donna, I keep thinking I'm co...I'm with you Donna, I keep thinking I'm coming down with something when its really the sickness from the whole Vick marketing campaign. Today, I received a request from HSUS "Vick, Lets Not Fight" in their consistent attempt to make this whole deal with the devil palatable...AND a request for a donation to help their campaign. Are they f*****g kidding??? I'm hoping for the time when this rage and disgust inside me can be transformed into some really hot program for our dogs or some outrageous event, etc. Just waiting for that time ... until then, <br /><br />also sick in N. CalAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-63665073262258980302009-08-17T12:07:16.810-07:002009-08-17T12:07:16.810-07:00leigha - I have to admit that this news has been h...leigha - I have to admit that this news has been hitting me much harder than I thought it would. Lost sleep last night, woke up with a headache, sick to my stomach. It's hard to know if the news is harder to take because I'm getting sick or if I'm getting sick because of the news. Bleh. Much of BR is in shock, dismayed, angry, disgusted. Utterly disgusted.<br /><br />"I'm sorry for what happened to the dogs."<br /><br />Quite the loaded quote there.Donnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05881171300084907158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-68294049233735268572009-08-17T11:55:03.442-07:002009-08-17T11:55:03.442-07:00i just now watched the interview online. it made m...i just now watched the interview online. it made me sad, sick and angry just as i thought it would and i honestly dont care if he is really sorry or not. i still havent heard him say "i am sorry to those dogs who were hurt, tortured, abused, killed." not once. only he knows if he is sincere in feeling truly sorry for his actions, maybe he is, maybe not. but regardless of that, he shouldn't have gotten his job back. he said that he deserved to lose all his money because of what he had done. but i wonder.. if he feels he rightfully lost that money, why is he so quick to seek out that job with the nfl where he could regain it all in five years or less? wouldnt his "remorse" show to be a little more true if he had gotten out of prison, announced he wont be immediately seeking a job with the nfl, he will be doing community work on a full time basis and that is his main focus. that would be way more convincing. instead he sought to get his million dollar job back right away, with all the other things being done "on the side". his priorities are still screwed up, big time. "true remorse begins with apologizing to those you hurt the most in your actions" you arent there yet vick.leighanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-67933929512749720942009-08-17T11:15:45.933-07:002009-08-17T11:15:45.933-07:00tim, i too noticed this is the most responded to b...tim, i too noticed this is the most responded to blog i have ever seen on here. i think a lot of people dont understand our need to speak up for these dogs. but a lot of people do and our voices are loud and clear. you guys get it and i love you all at bad rap for that. i couldnt bring myself to watch that interview either, i knew when i first heard of it being aired that i wouldnt watch it. i knew it would only make me angry and sick and sad all at once. i hope the nfl feels the backlash from this and i hope they feel it in their wallets where it will really hurt. i will be in the parking lot at the game in october in DC/MD when the skins play the eagles. i will be there not as a skins fan(which i have been my whole life) but as a human who wants to speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves. just as i was there in downtown richmond va when vick appeared in court.leighanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-38188942937725533672009-08-17T07:01:17.928-07:002009-08-17T07:01:17.928-07:00Susanna (SMASON39) - you mention that you're a...Susanna (SMASON39) - you mention that you're a Ravens fan - I was sick too, thinking about MV being a part of our team! If you happen to still be in the Baltimore area, check out our group: bmoredog.org. We're all HUGE fans of bad rap and we started a group in Baltimore after some proposed BSL legislation a few years ago. We don't do rescue, but rather education/advocacy - and we're desperate for volunteers to help with our programs (Bmore Humane and Bmore reponsible).<br />Not to take away from this particular post - but saw a potential local connection and wanted to reach out.<br />On the MV situation - its good to know that there are so many people who understand that this isn't an issue of valuing a dog's life more than a humans or an issue of race. What he did shows a complete lack of respect for life, human or animal doesn't matter, and I'm so tired of hearing people use his culture or up bringing as an excuse. Vick was old enough to know that his actions were at the very least illegal, regardless of whether or not he can fathom the true evil that one must possess to do such things. I have to think that there is just something "missing" in the emotional make up of a person who is capable of such horrific acts of cruelty. Baltimore has seen numberous cases, this summer, of animals being set on fire. It scares me to think that there are so many people out there who can do such things. Thanks to bad rap and all on this board for helping me to maintain some level of faith in humans - some days - its tough. :)<br />JenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-79476709748816089482009-08-17T02:23:14.705-07:002009-08-17T02:23:14.705-07:00Hey Bob - not to worry, we have something in mind ...Hey Bob - not to worry, we have something in mind for the Phillie/Oakland game that doesn't involve too much organizing, but it will certainly get the point across.<br /><br />This is likely the most responded to post we've ever had. Vick getting back in the game was sure to be a hot topic, bringing back up emotions that were just tabled for awhile. And tonight was his big interview - I can't comment on it because I just couldn't bring myself to watch it after seeing only 30 seconds of the teaser earlier in the day. In that short time though I did notice that he used words like "what happened", "when it happened", "I allowed it to happen." Again divorcing himself from the awful deeds that he delivered - they just "happened" and he somehow had something to do with it all. Consistent with his apologies on camera some two years ago when he forgot to mention the dogs - never used the word "dog."<br /><br />We could drive ourselves crazy over this guy, but it's not worth it. He is who he is and I believe we all know who he is deep down - simply a person capable of such deeds as he perpetrated - while laughing.<br /><br />I am personally more disgusted with the NFL right now as they are responsible for him getting back into the game. But we shouldn't expect too much from the NFL and I must remember that the NFL is really nothing more than a corporation and corporations are out to do one thing, and that is to make money - as much as possible. So all the rhetoric about America and second chances is pretty much a bunch of crap. Vick had his second chance the day he walked out of prison, whether or not he ever played the game again.<br /><br />But I'm all for embarrassing the NFL with protests at every Eagles game from peeps who feel so strongly. Just as Vick has earned his right to play football again, we also have rights of free speech in this country - rights as American as football.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654993049959218916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-45225727845003959492009-08-16T21:57:37.969-07:002009-08-16T21:57:37.969-07:00well i just read online that vick says he cried in...well i just read online that vick says he cried in prison at night because of the guilt he felt over his involvement in dogfighting. what a load of crap, i just want to know, did he feel that guilt after the first dog he tortured and killed or the 4th or the 10th?leighanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-25548689601709032422009-08-16T19:53:50.372-07:002009-08-16T19:53:50.372-07:00Donna & Tim,
I know it's already been men...Donna & Tim,<br /><br />I know it's already been mentioned but, I think "A Gathering" of BadRap and Pit followers should be organized for the Phillie/Oakland game. If not in actually inside then at least a huge tailgate. With all the media contacts out there our perspective could most certainly be put on display. I'll get as many people from Lodi as I can!<br /><br />BobAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-28972591905213413232009-08-16T19:44:26.193-07:002009-08-16T19:44:26.193-07:00I don't hate Michael Vick. Not particularly. ...I don't hate Michael Vick. Not particularly. He's just another ignorant, evil bastard who grew up not knowing better and ended up in a professional career that does not exactly encourage humanism or rational thought/behavior.<br /><br />Vick only matters to me because his case has lent great publicity to a very needy cause. Michael Vick, I publicly volunteer to ghost-write your life story with every last detail of the dogfighting operation, your time in prison and your "repentance." <br /><br />I would only ask that all profits be donated to organizations like Badrap.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-69442531068466575592009-08-16T18:45:02.274-07:002009-08-16T18:45:02.274-07:00BAD RAP - Great connection - I didn't make ...BAD RAP - Great connection - I didn't make it myself. Over the past couple of years I have been stunned at the horrific cases of animal abuse in Philly. But, I didn't get the irony of that along with Vick being signed by the Eagles until you put it together.<br />Just when I thought I could not be more disgusted with Vick, the HSUS and the Eagles - <br />Thank you for a great (yet terribly depressing) post.<br />Karen DeliseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-46392088417036648672009-08-16T15:53:22.425-07:002009-08-16T15:53:22.425-07:00The DC area has had pit bulls on the brain lately....The DC area has had pit bulls on the brain lately. Earlier in the week, a dog was found in a dumpster with horrific wounds from being fought, wrapped up in a black trash bag and secured with duct tape. Amazingly, animal control came to her rescue, and immediately took her to Friendship Hospital for Animals. Here's a link:<br /><br />http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/081009_dog_found_in_dumpster_survives<br /><br />Today I went by Friendship to attend a fund raiser for the dog, now named Trooper. I was wearing my long sleeved shirt that features a handsome pit bull and is emblazoned "Let one dog restore your hope." As I approached the group on the sidewalk, Officer Russell and the two WHS volunteers said in chorus "Oh, Bad Rap! We love Bad Rap!"<br />When I got back to the car I looked down at my chest to make sure the shirt does say Bad Rap but in tiny letters.<br />I think we all realize that this dog would have been "humanely euthanized" just a few short years ago. Its the work of Bad Rap, and Best Friends, and the legal team that fought the Vick case. Because of your work Trooper is alive today. No doubt she will be one popular pittie, and I hope that will draw folks into the shelters to rescue more of these great dogs.Dianne in DChttp://www.warl.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-37430351438001397382009-08-16T15:39:19.089-07:002009-08-16T15:39:19.089-07:00Philly born & raised, football writer is my oc...Philly born & raised, football writer is my occupation.....i am horrified to know that my own team that i grew up watching.....has signed vick. so many things i want to say but i'm all typed out! please know that not everyone in PHILLY wants that FELON here! I have even denounced my love for my own team over this. I will not watch, i will not support them & i certainly will not be a season ticket holder anymore!<br /><br />thank you for having this blog, i came across is through pet connections!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009181.post-91151981315469493882009-08-16T11:23:48.335-07:002009-08-16T11:23:48.335-07:00Here where I live, football is a cult; the fans ca...Here where I live, football is a cult; the fans can't be educated, nor will they be deprogrammed. Their single-minded and myopic support of the goons and sociopaths (who vastly outnumber the regular good guys) on the team's roster is irrational. Violence is the norm both on and off the field and it doesn't matter to cult members -- oops, I mean fans -- how high the bodies are stacked or whose lives are ruined or how many college girls are raped, so long as the team wins on Saturday.<br /><br />Their devotion to the game/team is visceral and very tribal -- reason, logic, thoughtfulness, empathy, and an ethic of care are NOT a feature of this particular religious denomination. <br /><br />And the local newspaper is overflowing with excuses and rationalizations for Vick's return to the game even as smaller towns in this midwestern state enact BSL to 'save' their communities from the real dangers that lurk 'out there'.<br /><br />Yeah. Right.PrairiePupnoreply@blogger.com